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Sunday, January 11, 2009

More about stock market bottoms





Grant C, one of our winningest Spikers, has sent in this contribution:

More about bottoms

I thought I would revisit my late November 2008 post about how the 2002 bottom formed. As I said in that post, reviewing the 2002 bottoming process, which took almost a year, is extremely helpful in viewing the current market action. Both charts are weekly Candles with 5, 20 and 40 week EMAs (25, 100, 200 day EMAs) and MACD-H indicators.

In 2002, the market’s first stab down was in July, taking price deep below the Bollinger Band and forming a long Hammer candle. We rallied for four weeks, coming close to the declining red 20 WEMA (100 DEMA). Price then crumbled and for seven weeks we sank back to the lows, forming a major weekly MACD-H bullish divergence. Note also that on the retest, price stopped inside the Bollinger Band, confirming that the retest was successful, and the bottom was in. From the retest, we surged back through the declining 100 DEMA and into the declining 200 DEMA, which stopped the rally cold.

The 2008 bottoming process shows the mid-October stab to the low, outside the Bollinger Bands. It then reverses with a Hammer-like candle with a tail. Then for 5 weeks we’ve recovered with more sideways action than upward movement. Still we’ve managed to come fairly close to the declining red 100 DEMA. Guess what’s next? Based on the 2002 model, we probably break support here and drift downwards for 4-6 weeks until we retest the October lows.

As our comparison shows bottoms are processes consisting of time and price. Bear markets are painful, they wear on investors, take their money, and finally leave them disgusted and looking for more pleasant amusements. To be a successful trader in this environment takes patience and a game plan. A sense of history also helps.

Grant C

5 comments:

  1. Hi Grant,

    Great analyysis - thanks for sharing.

    Best,
    Max

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  2. Grant,
    Excellent! It is sth to be printed out and kept visibly at the trading desk for the weeks to come. Thank you!
    Regards,
    Rodryk

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  3. Grant,
    now, 5 trading days later to my last comment, I would like to add: ex-post your analysis proved perfectly right. Chapeau! - Your analysis saved me money (and percentage point at SpikeTrade) as it strengthened my patience to wait with my long entry until Friday morning. Thank you!
    Regards,
    Rodryk

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  4. Guys,
    Thanks for the comments--glad it was helpful. I'll try to do others as the bottoming process develops.
    Grant

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  5. It is an excellent model very logical. Thanks for sharing great ideas.

    End of the Bear Market is when everyone throws the towel down ( professional and non-professionals) and everyone is frustrated,panic, pshchologically then it is at the end of the bear market ( major) ends not before that. Currenltly ( early March 09) There is some panic but it is still at a comfortable level, it has not reached to the extreme yet. Media is helping to create it !!.

    Pschologically Panic spread faster( TV, medias , personal communications socially) and that is the normal human response. So till the Peak in selling, extreme in Putt/Call ration extreme don't occur, end is not there. If you recall at the extremes there is automatic shutt down of trading floor as Dow drops in 100's of point( in matter of seconds) and stock market stops for few hours. This has happened in the past and the events has to repeat. All is mainly human pschology and it runs the market. The waves of fear and gread. The fear is there but not at extreme. Only at the extreme the panic occurs which leads to major selling all around the country and the world ( as whole world is watching US). This may lead to market bottom and again this needs to re-test it again and after that confirmation can a bull market start, with multiple attempts of breaking the resistance levels at multiple layers. Market is right and indivual investor is usually wrong or market leaves investor behind and takes a sudden turn without he/she can catching it, extremely few can catch it (bottom or the top) at a right time and has documeted the catch. !! Till then one has to keep on learning to perfect it.! And one does it then to keep it with the pace of the market.!

    Again thanks for sharing nice analysis, a very helpful and techinical.

    Thankyou..

    Kiran Viramgama

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